Proposal Kitchener MATH… UGH

I have had a few people send me messages on Facebook to say that they would like to put a deposit down for a lot/house and so too would I be willing and able to do this.

QUESTION: What I would like to know is this.  If I took the time and money to hire a lawyer and open a trust account with this lawyer would you be ready and able to put $15K in there within ten business days?

WHY AM I ASKING???:  Because, if ONLY 50 of us were to put $15,000 into the account, we would then be able to purchase the land in Breslau (with a condition that the community will allow a tiny house development here).  Then if another 50 of us put $15,000 into the same account we would have collected 1.5 million all together; this would, I believe give us the money to sever lots and to develop the land with water, sewer and hook up lines to the first central structure.

This 8.31 acre property is of course 361983 square feet which if my guestimate is at all accurate makes each square foot of land cost roughly $4.15 per square foot but of course this raises to probably more than double that cost/ square foot for the lots due to the fact that we loose space and money to the main house, walkways and roads.  I would guess this would bring lot cost to roughly $15./square foot.

We would make two sizes of lots available.  Again this is a guesstimate on numbers because I really am unsure what a lawyer costs and also what development of lots costs… so here is the ballpark:

—  LOTS —

For about $21000, (56×25) 1400 square foot lot for houses that are 400 square feet and under (these lots can only have a garage if it sits under the house).  They can also have a basement and fruit cellar.

For about $37500, (56×44.65) 2500 square foot lots for maximum 500 square foot houses that may have a garage (under or beside).  They can also have a basement and fruit cellar.

Your initial investment of $15,000 (minus your legal fee) is to go toward a deposit for your lot, OR returned to you once the majority of the lots are sold.  Once the property is purchased and the trades have to be hired this deposit money will also be used to pay me a living wage of $800/week for organizing all of this and for consultancy due to the fact that I will have to work full time at this for a few months.

If all if this seems agreeable to you and you are ready to invest please comment here (I will NOT make it public) or send  Tiny House Ontario a private message on Facebook.  If there are 100 of you who are ready and willing to put your money in then I will hire a lawyer immediately.

 

Here is the style of homes that I would like to see in our tiny house community.

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14 thoughts on “Proposal Kitchener MATH… UGH

  1. This is new to me. I’d like to know more about living/owning a Tiny House in Kingston Ontario area. Could anyone around there please contact me. I’ll drive up from Toronto to see and talk with some people about the reality about living in a Tiny House. Thanks. Val

  2. Hey Laura,

    How can I stay updated with the latest progress with this idea of Kitchener tiny house community? And what are something I can do to make it happen? I really like the idea, and I am considering to either purchase a lot and build my own tiny or just rent out the lot.

    –Luke

  3. what a fabulous idea. I see you’ve recently posted your tiny for sale. Does that mean there are plans to forge ahead with this? I’d love to hear more

  4. Tara

    Hi Laura,

    I have been following this blog on and off, and I was so excited to see Kitchener come up. In this planned community, would there be any possibility of renting a lot for the short term, say on a yearly basis? I have been planning a tiny house on wheels, and am just waiting for a confirmed spot to live before starting to build.

    However, at the moment I will only be in the Kitchener/Waterloo area for the next 4-6 years, so buying a permanent lot does not seem ideal.

    Even if there was not a renting option, I would definitely be interested in this tiny house community!

  5. jezziebezzie

    Laura,
    I figured my dream of tiny home ownership in Ontario was still far away, so Ive been focusing my attention on selling my condo & purchasing a 24′ Motorhome to live/travel in for a couple of years. I’m way behind in what’s been happening here on the site. I would LOVE to build a tiny in Kitchener or nearby. (As long as I’m within an hr or so of my doctor’s office in Halton Region, I’m happy.)
    Just wondering how close to fruition something like this is? I can provide $15k if that’s still an option…but I’d need to know what the final estimated costs would work out to be after the home is built, sewer/power lines are in, etc. I’m disabled, so I’m looking for something abiut 4-500 sqft as I’d require a main floor bedroom.

    I’m going to,send this via msg on FB, too.
    Thanks,
    jacquie

    • Hi Jacquie, You are not behind. We are just at the beginning of this. I have collected enough money now (I think) to get a lawyer to draw some things up. I have also arranged for a real-estate agent to list Tiny House Ontario and the land there just after the March break. At this point we will have enough money to put some aside for this as well as to get our small house in Hamilton ready for sale. Hj and I will take a one bedroom apartment for a year while we work on this. I am hoping that we can get a lawyer to draw up a draft, we can buy land and get things really happening. Please keep an eye on us here over the next year. Thanks so much for your interest! Laura

      • jezziebezzie

        Amazing! My current plan is to sell my condo, rent a room or bach apt locally & buy the used 20′ Motorhome…well, not of my dreams…cause they ain’t pretty, lol…but of my “needs”. It sounds like if timing works out to plan, I’d have a permanent tiny to call home by the time I’m sick of the road and/or the wheels fall off. I’ll def stay more in touch here & if ya don’t see me…please don’t desitate to give me a nudge, ’cause I’m definitely serious & Kitchener is a perfect location. I have family near there, i used to live & work in the area & it’s close to my doctor in Halton. @jezziebezzie is my twitter or Jacqueline Gilmour is the me who likes you on FB.

  6. Anonymous

    Very interesting. Nice initiative Laura! “Be the change”

  7. Anonymous

    May I recommend you contact your MPP in the area you reside in within this region.
    From that you and your MPP may be able to get to the By Laws in Kitchener to open up
    some of their stupidly retarded by-laws on Tiny Houses in the Wellington region.
    Been there, Done that, and Got nowhere with Kitchener or Waterloo By-Law.
    Sounds to me like you are really serious about this and so are many others just like myself.
    I’ve been at this for years and still having the same conversation with Justin Trudeau.
    He cares not and the twin cities don’t either.

    All the best on this and if you break ground … I want in.
    All the best

  8. David Christen

    Laura, It sounds like you would be the developer.  I think this is a great concept and the market is ready for it for sure. 

    Have you accounted for the following:Design plans for each house.Archetectual costs for designs.Building costs per unit.Land transfer costs?  Reason I am asking is I am forwarding your email to friends who I know would be very interested and for 15k I know that there will be additional costs to actually owing one of these.  Wondering if you will be doing a more detailed prospective with the cost factor to ownership. Maybe a breakdown of phases and costs?  Thanks again David 

    Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

    • Hi David, I guess I hate to think of myself as a developer, and would prefer to think of myself as a working consultant. I come with a lot of knowledge about what people who want to live tiny, actually want… and hope I could bring someone in with a little experience in the actual building stuff. The 15 K I am looking for about 100 investors and would be to secure the land and work as an initial deposit. The eventual cost of the lots would be about $15/square foot which is about 5.5 million dollars when all the lots are sold, so I was hoping that the difference in cost between the land and the actual lot sales would cover a small wage for my time as well as all the associated costs with development.
      Kind regards,
      Laura

    • Sorry I should have added that I want all of the houses to have the feel of those in Carmel by the Sea. Cozy timberframe style cottages with some stone work, like the ones I have pictured in the post. A few of these are off the shelf plans, but I would like there to be a few options for people, not just cardboard cut outs, even though to maintain an upperscale look all of these houses will need to fit into that style. Regarding a detailed prospective, a breakdown of costs and phases I don’t have it. I would like to see these houses complete be available for around 75K for the tiny and 100K for the smalls with a few fancy interior upgrades available as well. I would also like to have these houses not be allowed to grow beyond the sizes that they are, so that they are forever affordable houses which will turn over as families grow and people pass on.
      Again kind regards,
      Laura

  9. Jessica Piercy

    Hey I am 100% interested and we would certianly like to put down. Currently only have 10k but would try to do our best to pull more money together. Went would you require the full amount and could there be flexibility with 10k now and the final 5k at a spaced out time. Please add me to the list as I am very serious and have been following along.

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